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[the_fairest]

May 6, 2012
Once Upon a Time Episode 2.21
"An Apple Red as Blood"

Well. That was certainly a jam packed pre-Season Final episode.
Are any of you not flailing? How many of you predicted the things?









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Ongoing Storybrooke Plot

[the_fairest]

Anything you thought bad or good about the Storybrooke plot line!

(Regina & Gold! Emma & you choice of opponent: Henry, Archie, Mary Margaret, Regina, everyeone! Henry & August! Regina & Jefferson! The Tree, Hat, The Ring, The Apple Turnover!)

TURNOVER

[minkhollow]

You guys, I may never be able to eat an apple turnover again.
(Also I think it's preeeeetty safe to say this'll help push Emma into believing. From everything we've seen so far, it would take something affecting Henry to get through to her.

Speaking of affecting Henry: "The only person who's getting hurt in all this is Henry." ABOUT THAT.)

Re: TURNOVER

[the_fairest]

"The only person who's getting hurt in all this is Henry."




Well.



And Graham. And Kathryn.


(And Belle. And Jefferson.)


And David. And August.

Re: TURNOVER

[ahuntsman]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeep.

Re: TURNOVER

[minkhollow]

I was more basing it off the fact that the show has boiled it down to Henry more than once. In truth it's more like the whole damn town because Regina has no sense of precision or scale.

Re: TURNOVER

[ahuntsman]

I agree that it would take something affecting Henry to get through to Emma!

I also feel like the poisonous apple turnover had no effect on me; I find myself CRAVING ONE SO BADLY RIGHT NOW.

... not the poisonous part, of course.

Obviously.

Re: TURNOVER

[fairy_dust]

I don't know . . . that turnover looked kind of delicious.

The Hat, The Ring, The Apple(Turnover)

[the_fairest]

I seriously cannot stop making a sad face at Regina. In this episode we get to Emma taking one and then another venue of running away, first with Henry and the second for Henry.

But with Regina, I'm so stuck on this now.

She gave up the last bit of magic, and her best memento of Daniel, to take down Emma (who'd already offered to basically leave them alone 80% of the time). So, she gave up Daniel, to take down Emma, and instead takes out her own son. I am so sad and sadfaced about this.

August

[the_fairest]

"I have no choice."


I am annoyed at you August. For months you've been an amazing man with a great mystery. Who was tossing quips and being cool. And then you tried once, and you did a lousy job of it? And thus you gave up entirely?

Okay, giving up is a choice. It is. And it can be yours.

But don't say you don't have a choice.

Giving up is still a choice.

Re: August

[ahuntsman]

THIS SO MUCH.

Augh, I feel so mixed about August. On the one hand, he seems like he's got so much potential to be such a great character. EVEN with the Pinocchio stuff, which I think they could use really effectively.

And then on the other hand, he goes and does this. Or makes a decision like giving up. Or leaving Baby!Emma for his own purposes. Or just idk ... just.

I really do want to get all up in his head and see how it works and figure out how to MAKE IT ALL MAKE SENSE so he doesn't annoy me like he does right now. >

Mary Margaret

[the_fairest]

SO MARY MARGARET HAS BECOME SNOW, RIGHT?


Like I know she doesn't remember, because that would be so much bigger, but she's seriously taking on Regina (in The Stranger) and Emma (in this episode) with the same clarity.

No matter how personal, how insulted or hurt she gets, she's be so clear, so pure, so on point.

I LOVELOVELOVELOVELOVELOVE HER SO MUCH.

Re: Mary Margaret

[ahuntsman]

I KEEP CALLING MM 'SNOW' AND VICE VERSA.

I CANNOT DIFFERENTIATE THE TWO ANYMORE.

I LIKE IT.

Re: Mary Margaret

[fairy_dust]

Her argument with Emma could not possibly have been more motherly. It was bittersweet.

The Ring & The Cup

[the_fairest]

So of course we got to this piece of dialogue:

Regina: "I'll give you anything."
Mr. Gold: "You no longer have anything I want."

And the world held it's breath and nothing happened yet. Again.




But. Something that did strike me while looking at tumblr a few seconds ago is the dichotomy here as well. In our two supposedly Evil or Chaotic characters, we've got one trinket that connects these each to the love they lost. Regina gave hers up with only a few seconds of hesitation (for her revenge, and the horrible twisted path that would fall out from it), while Mr. Gold nearly beat a man half-senseless and gave up his biggest secret/safe gaurd just to keep his back in his own possession.


It's a really interesting thing to think about.

Re: The Ring & The Cup

[fairy_dust]

I was half hoping that a ghost of Regina's love would appear and try to talk some sense into hear when she tossed their token of love into the hat. Not that he could have helped, probably.

Regina's Dream

[the_fairest]

I'm glad that we were all right about this being a dream. Which pretty much everyone I'd talked to had gotten to the fact it had to be with only two episodes to go and Emma's lack of Belief Vision in The Stranger. Tumblr apparently keeps bringing me back to My Feels.



I love the added roles for The Apple Tree, Red, Archie, Grumpy, Granny, and Henry that ended up in this dream. Not just Mary Margaret, David, and Emma that the bits of the clip we'd seen had given us. I like that her fall is a community drive thing even in dreams.

It's not just about Snow & Regina in Storybrooke, and it can't be broken down to just the two of them in Storybrooke. It may have started that way in The Fairytale Land, and The Curse may have been enacted to punish Snow and Charming specifically, but it, also, caught up everyone. Just as she promised it would at the wedding.

All their happy endings, all that they love ripped from them.

The war on Storybrooke's side is very much a whole massive community of people who've had everything taken from them for three decades by one singular woman. I like that we're seeing, even in her fears, she realizes they are a sleeping dragon. Because the entirity of the town will, and every person in it, as Mr. Gold, pointed out will have reason to hunt her down for it.